bush and adviser to mitt romney. secretary gutierrez, thanks for joining us this morning. >> pleasure, thank you. >> we've heard from republicans about what needs to change, immigration and taxes, abortion. they talk about needing to reach out to voters, but i need you to put some meat on that bone for me. what does reaching out mean? does that mean a softening of a position? does that mean a changing of position, abandonment? what's there? >> well, it needs to start with articulating a position, and, you know, we have been and we need to strengthen our position as the party of individual empowerment, of growth, of prosperity, of individual opportunity, of small business, of less intrusive government, lower taxes, let people keep more of their money so they can continue to grow. >> so you think the problem is that during the election that the -- the points were not articulated properly? i mean, some would say that they heard the points but just disagree. >> there were some things that perhaps aren't consistent with t